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Fiddling around with Dreamwidth features is still underway, but I'm learning stuff! Now that I'm more familiar with the interface, I really like it. For one thing, it keeps rewarding me for experimental settings-manipulation in the way all the best websites do.
As of this evening, the links in my profile work! And there's a GIF at the top of this post, which demonstrates my awe-inspiring ability to embed media! (Thank you AO3 and Purimgifts specifically for significantly truncating that learning curve) Next I'll see if I can make a cut happen.

Okay, this is kind of perplexing me. Maybe it'll work when I post it and maybe I'll dig through tutorials tomorrow.
Also tomorrow, I want to try to give my journal a header that'll go with the purple theme it's got going on.
I peer-pressured

zanzquest into making an account, though it's still unclear whether I'll be able to convince her to do Battleship with me. And I've got around 50% of a fill for Summer of the 69, which, if I hurry, could be the year's first fill!

Oh, does this text show up below the cut? Confusion rescinded. This slaps, actually.

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Happy playing around with settings! :D

style_system can also be a neat place to ask questions, if you get stuck when tweaking some style things!

Okay, this is kind of perplexing me. Maybe it'll work when I post it and maybe I'll dig through tutorials tomorrow.

I assume that you used the preview function? In that case, you won't see the cut, since the preview is of the post as seen on its own page, which the cut isn't visible on. (I'd seen someone else put in a support request about this a bit ago, so it seems worth mentioning what's going on.)

That makes sense! I'd figured it out by the time I hit post, but it took some fiddling. I see why a certain subset of my Tumblr mutuals feel so strongly about tumblr style cuts being a downgrade from LJ. Being able to put text under a cut like that is a game changer.

Yeah, I've seen a few cuts on Tumblr, and I find this style much better. With multiple cuts you can even make a kind of TOC (which I've seen done), and you can nest them, too! I just like the flexibility this gives us.

YUUUUP! I use cuts for TOCs of bigger posts all the time, it really makes things a lot easier. I used that function today while textually transcribing a zine on backpacker foods (which had a TOC organized by meal type, quite sensible).

Also, you can make the cut text whatever you want, which I like.

And I see you also used headings, which is quite nice!

For the cut text, I have to mention two limitations:

Straight quotes don't work well, so you can type '"' to get them instead.
There's a known bug where entering certain characters with diacritics via the RTE leads to them being corrupted. You can fix that by re-entering the character in the HTML view.

But aside from that, it does seem like you can enter literally anything! I've also checked, and the cut text can be 299981 characters at longest, so space is hardly at a premium there.

Yeah, for quotes I usually just switch to Brit conventions and use single quotes instead for cut text (and alt text, for similar reason). It usually works all right! The diacritics thing, thankfully, isn't one I've needed to do yet.

My own tendency is to use curly quotes, or to use the workaround (because I found it myself, and I want to show off). For diacritics... I've run into that once, and it gave me quite some trouble, but I'm quite happy I now know how to fix it (not that I'll encounter it often, since I write in English)!

Yeah, I work from desktop, so inputting curly quotes in a web browser is really difficult and annoying!

The cut worked! (I had confusion when I first started trying to work with cuts as well.) ^^

Hurrah! Such a joy to see someone making the jump from tumblr to DW and enjoying the interface! Welcome!

Re

pangolin20's observation that you can use a series of cuts to make a table of contents: cuts don't appear on the page for the individual entry, so if you're doing a cut-tag TOC for a long post you're gonna link somewhere (say, an exchange letter!), you can either link the DATE the entry was made (which will link all your posts made on that day with the cut-tags intact, but if there was only one post that day, there will be no confusion about which post you meant), or you can use details/summary tags, which can only be added in HTML view but which do remain folded in all versions of the post unless manually unfolded. (See W3Schools for the HTML for details/summary tags.)

Here, let me find you some examples of what I mean:

Post linked by the date, cut-tags intact
Post linked by the individual entry, cut-tags unfolded (but bold-face pseudo-headings put inside each cut-tag so it's less confusing in unfolded format)
A book review using the details/summary tag to hide a spoiler (in the part about Bujold's Memory), which remains folded/hidden even when linking to the individual post.

Thanks for expanding on my advice! For the type of posts I mentioned, I think putting in headings to correspond to the cuts is a good idea even if you expect people to reach the post from page view. It may be a bit of an extreme example, but I've made a quite large index of a community with such a cut TOC, and I've put in quite large headings for each cut, lest people lose their way.

For the details tag, you can also add "style="cursor:pointer"" to show that the details tag is clickable, as it doesn't show up like that by default. (Dreamwidth does have an issue for this, so it may well be changed soon, but in the meantime, this is a good fix.)

Yes, I'm a big fan of putting headings inside the cut-tags for organizational purposes. (Assuming the cut tags were added for organizational purposes in the first place, that is!) And just in general, it's good to remember that people coming directly to the post will never see the link/descriptive text for the cut-tag: it's often a good idea to repeat that info inside the cut, if it somehow contributes to the understanding of that material.

And thank you for the additional code for the details tag! I've heard that people struggled with knowing that it's clickable; I didn't know that the cursor was part of the problem.

In the case I'm most familiar with (using the cut text as a kind of "whisper space" for book reviews), I don't put it in the post itself, but I do put it in the TOC/index, where I enclose it in square brackets to indicate that it's the cut text. It's been exceedingly helpful to keep posts apart if there'd otherwise just be "Chapter 10", "Chapter 11" and so forth!

I've heard that people struggled with knowing that it's clickable; I didn't know that the cursor was part of the problem.

It does show up as clickable when navigating with the tab key, I see, but since most people will be using the cursor to navigate, I presume that that causes confusion (or not knowing that you can click the text in addition to the little arrow?).

You can click the text, too? *experiments* Huh, so you can. Learn something new every day, thank you!

Glad to have shown that, then!

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